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Intelligent Design vs. Evolution



Wednesday, Aug. 03, 2005
Fanning the Controversy Over 'Intelligent Design'
By Matthew Cooper/Washington









A light-hearted White House conversation with representatives of Texas newspapers may have opened a new controversy for President George W. Bush. The President laughed when Knight-Ridder�s Ron Hutcheson asked for Mr. Bush�s "personal views" about the theory of "intelligent design", which religious activists advocate should be taught in U.S. schools as an alternative to theories of evolution. After joking that the reporter was "doing a fine job of dragging me back to the past," to his days as governor of Texas, Bush said: "Then, I said that, first of all, that decision should be made to local school districts, but I felt like both sides ought to be properly taught...�
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Do you think Intelligent Design should be taught in our schools?

169 comments:

Athena Smith said...

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Unknown said...

I have been hearing about the intelligent design vs Evolution for quite sometime. I think is all full of bs. The people that started all this is because they have different opinion about GOD and they want to force the rest of the population to think like them. I beleave that's the reason they want to implement this in school. My opinion on this is if the goverment does not allow for the word of God to be tought in school, it can't even be mention in school then no other altenative should be allow in school as well. People cant descriminate one and not the other. Im a true believer in the word of God and how the world was created and how God started human kind. People in the world need to know two thing 1- the story about Eve and Adam can be as real as a theory about monkeys being formed into human and 2. if the theory about monkeys being formed into human who to stay it was not the hand of GOD that turned those monkeys or apes into human.

Mousie101 said...

I agree with chiquita5.  I am also a believer in God.  I do not agree that the government actually feels the need to argue over something that has been wondered for hundreds of years.  I believe that people should believe in what they wish and not what they are taught to be the truth.  This is the whole point of "theory".  Theory cannot be tested.  It is just a matter of what one believes in.  Also, textbooks are updated nearly every year.  What is true this year may not be true next year.  This shows that no one knows the truth about anything.  The world is changing and people's views are changing too.  This is proof that the world can be becoming to an end.  People are trying to force in everyone's head that there is no God.  Isn't that the whole idea of the Anti-Christ?  "Follow this way.. The way of logic and reasoning!"  Logic and reasoning may be the easiest way to explain a phenomenon.  But it is not necessarily the right way.  Everything should just be left alone.  The arguement is just nonsense.

~Chrissy said...

Intelligent design should be taught in schools alongside the evolution theory, but more of a "this is also something that might have happened in the Earth's history, but it's not necessarily exactly what happened" theory than a "this is exactly what happened and nothing anyone says or does will ever change it" theory. I'm not saying that we should teach one over the other, by no means, but we should teach our youth that there's more than one way to see things, and that they should open their eyes a little and see more than what science tries to push on them.

RoxyChic0529 said...

My opinion on this matter is that Intelligent Design should be taught is schools but should be presented as a "theory". If we are going to teach our children about religion, we can't just teach about one religion. I think children should be educated on many different types of religion as well as religious practices and ideas. Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs, and there are many different beliefs when it comes to evolution and creation and what not.

Jennifer said...

Intelligent design will all due respect is junk science. I am a believer too but how can you justify that intelligent design taught in a science course? Are you kidding me? What next? Witchcraft in a physics course? Reading tarot cards in psychology?
In a biology course only proven theories should be taught. If you want to teach intelligent design, teach it in a religious course. And if the government does not allow religious studies in public schools, then we can't have it, as simple as that.
Do you really think the founding fathers were that stupid when they kicked religion out of public life?

FDLE:OnlyPlace4Me said...

I have been very interested in this topic for the past few weeks and im very glad that this is our first topic. First off I am a christian and I believe that God created everything that there is. To start my little rant off about this topic I think evolution is a joke. I do not think that the world is millions or billions of years old nor is any universe. In the bible it says that God created everything in 6 days(Yes im using the bible for a refrence; but science totally backs this up:CHECK Link:). I believe that the earth is around 6,000 years old (if you trace geneology from the bible you end up around 6,200 yrs) In my opinion if they are going to teach evolution in schools then they should teach Intelligent design aswell; there is no difference except of course, Intelligent design is the right one ;)... I do not understand how a person can believe in Evolution and neglect Intelligent design with the reasoning; "If i cant see it and feel it then its not there!"
ummmm..... No Person has ever seen Evolution take place; sure animals adapt to diff enviroments and can handle differnet situations :Ex.Heat, food: But no One has ever seen a Monkey turn into man or a Whale walking on the earth. If you are an evolutionist check out this website www.drdino.com

fporzio said...

I do not believe that Intelligent Design should be taught in science classes in public schools. Most high schools offer classes like Intro to Religion in which students can learn about it if they want to. I think that public schools should continue to teach evolution as a theory and can remind students that there are other trains of thought in the world. I agree with Jennifer, part of what this country was founded on is the separation of Church and State and teaching anything religious or spiritual in a required class in the public school system would be crossing that line.

DivineArtistStevie said...

I don't really know how I feel about the whole "Intelligent Design vs. Evolution" thing...I think that children should be exposed to all different kinds of things while they are being educated. I think that they should teach children all different kinds of theories about how the Earth came to be; how everything including us came to be. Nobody knows the answer to the question of how we came to be...so why not let each individual choose what they want to believe after years of hearing many different things, instead of having only one idea shoved down their throats. I think that if the schools made a world religions class mandatory, in at least high school, then we could make a lot of people happy...there are always going to be people that oppose one thing or another, but all we can do is just TRY to make a difference for the better.

Anonymous said...

I think that Intelligent design vs.Evolution is a subject that should be exposed to students.This allows the indivdual to consume all the information and to come up with thier on beliefs and conclusions,besides this is just a theory and it has not been scientifically proven one hundred percent and as for the Bible I belive there is also some missed information and misleading concepts that can be very controversail , but I do believe that this should be a state decision in order for this matter to be taught within in its own schools.

kel1ove said...

It made sense for Bush to THINK informing people would make for a better debate, but I do not agree that it should be taught in schools. I also, like many others, believe in God. It does not make sense to me, to teach some "intelligent design" or whatever when school's hardly allow other people's religion to be taught in schools. I mean sure they have FCA and people carry their Bible's around, but they don't encourage it..sooo.. why the heck would learning about "intelligent design" be any better. And it should not be a matter of "our children need to be educated by everything". Why? Because this is the kind of stuff you learn from conversation or in debates between friends, not something that should be taught in a science class. If they bring up this "idea/theory" in a science book, then why not everyone else's opinion of how it all started instead of just the evolution side.

Anonymous said...

I believe the theory of intelligent design should be taught in public schools. From an academic standpoint public schools have the responsibility to present objectively different theories or schools of thought on subject matter such as the origins of the earth and mankind to students. Just as schools teach the theories of Darwin and Natural Selection, it is appropriate to present the theory of Intelligent Design that scientist now propose as a viable explanation of the origins of the world and mankind. A student's knowledge of both theories objectively presented will empower him or her to embrace, reject or just assimilate information about this subject as he or she personally chooses to do. I do not believe the teaching of the theory of Intelligent Design is "religious" theory, rather it is scientific hypothesis.

Jennifer said...

FDLE:OnlyPlace4Me
The earth is 6000 years old? Because the Bible says so?
That is scientific thought to you? Any idea how old the dinosaur fossils are -proved by chemical tests- ? Billions of years!

Anonymous said...

I think pursuing "Intelligent Design" in schools is a waste of time. Leave it be the way it is. There are too many different religions and beliefs to combine them all under one "Intelligent Design". From a young age, most kids are exposed to some type of religion. They also learn there is a time for school and a time for church or worship. It should stay that way. I dont care what they teach in school, I will forget about it as soon as I pass and move on. Especially if it's something I could care less about, and evolution is personally something I don't necessarily believe in. But if science class requires it, so be it. Still, things have been that way and have been working fine that way for years, changing it will not only create a religious mess but also confuse children. Save "Intelligent Design" for the weekend on your own time.

Steelers88 said...

This debate has been an issue recently among me and my friends..."Where exactly did we come from?" This has never been taught to me...only mentioned upon different theories’ from scientific views and religious views. It is too much of a Controversial issue to bring forth to the classroom. Once kids reach a certain age then they maybe able to bring up such a topic so each student is familiar with their religious views to make prominent comments in a debate. Teaching both sides will just confuse students.

ofelia vazquez said...

If we are going to learn about evolution we should also learn about intelligent design or at least be exposed to this theory.Iam a beliver in god but people should know both sides to make an inform decision. We are very fortunate to be able to choose what we belive in especially religion and politics so why would we not want to be presented with both sides of this issue.I think its great that we are a thinking society and that we explore new ideas .The world is changing each and everyday so what we may think is true today may not be true a few years from now ...the point is that people will always come up with new thoeries and new solutions so we should always be open minded to at least hear them out even if we dont belive in them.

Athena Smith said...

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Athena Smith said...

Religious beliefs, although respected, should not interfere with scientific truths. As far as the age of earth is concerned,we know from radiometric dating that it is about 4.5 billion years old. That is a fact. Sideproof can be offered by the dinosaurs' fossils at 'Oldest dinosaur' fossil discovery

J_Rambo said...

I agree with roxy that they must teach these subjects as theories, but they do not need to bring any specific religion into perspective. The whole intelligent design from a darwin's perspective doesn't rule-out a chance of coincidence. It just makes it seem completely unlikely. You don't have to say God when explaining that boiling the gene pools down to its basics atoms and chromosomes would be some "universe lottery winning ticket" to create what we see today. I'm not an expert on it, but i think it can be taught in school while still abiding by the rules separating religion from public schools.

RockyRikoko said...

This is one of the few responses our president has made that I’m in agreement on. I’m all for the separation of church and state and that continues into our public schools. But from a different angle it can be viewed that many Christians are pressing their views on our community by not allowing alternative theories to be taught in the classroom. Children born in the United States, especially in the southeast, are largely expected to grow up as Christians. For our Christian based society to disallow other theories and perspectives to be taught in schools most children will grow to only believe the lessons they were taught in Sunday school. I believe children should be presented with multiple points of view that aren’t taught as facts, but as theories. And allow each generation to think for themselves and draw their own conclusions.

sweetklo020 said...

Intelligent Design vs Evolution is a very interesting subject. I am a strong believer in God. I don't believe in forcing people to believe in him. Although, I think it is horrible we can't speak of God's word in school. God created everyting and evolution is joke. There are so many people lost and don't know God. Why would we want to teach evolution in school and give them the chance to think any different? I understand when people say well if we teach one in school we should teach the other and people do have the right to their own choice. People who believe in God are always told to go spread the word and teaching evolution is spreading the wrong "word."

Liz419 said...

Everyone is entitled to think/believe what they want. People say Christianity is forced everywhere... I find that quite interesting since I've never seen a class of intelligent design being a requirement as Evolution and "The Big Bang" are in science. So which one is forced again???? People should at least have the choice in school of which one they would like to take if not both...Expressing your religious belief is now a taboo in a lot of places now and Christianity being forced? Seems like someone else’s belief not to have it. "The Big Bang Theory" "Evolution" they are as they say theories so why are they being treated as facts and requirements...Where was my choice while I was "force" to take a class that to me was a waste of my time and simply someone else’s belief and a theory. Let people have the choice of which one to take. Then no one will be offended and no one forced on someone else's belief.

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Anonymous said...

Ok. There is a God for everyone. Everyone has their own believes. Now havin society trying to have youth belive different by introducin this into schools thats their deal. The U.S. has become waaaay to politicaly correct and is tryin to staisfied EVERYONE! Well belive it or not...NO ONE is ever satisfied. Sometimes things need to be left be and remain optional...NOT FORCED!

MelissaSpeaks said...

I do believe that intelligent design should be taught in schools only because the subjects in schools, such as religion and philosophy only teach you so much. If they taught about evolution vs. intelligent design, then students would have a broader perspective on how we got here and why. I myself am a true believer in our GOD, but just because people come up with such far-fetched theories, doesn't mean I am going to change my beliefs. I only think that if the school district wants to make a subject about intelligent design, or evolution, them I'm all for it. People have many different beliefs and theories now, so how is this subject going to change their perseverance in any way? It is just another "speculation" in which you choose to believe or not.

Charles said...

I have had this discussion with many of my friends before, and I have come to this conclusion. I agree with the president. I do not see a problem with the teaching of many different schools of thought in class rooms. I feel that if you are not knowledgeable about other schools of though

(A) you should not have a right to tell me what’s wrong or right about what I believe.

(B) It is good for students to expand their knowledge on beliefs that are in the real world.

Maybe if students are exposed to facts within a class room environment then they will be able to question the statements made by those who think they know everything about one particular school of though, when really they are regurgitating something that someone told them.

Maybe it will force students to look into a particular school of though and find out the true meaning of it, rather than a reworded idea from someone.

Anonymous said...

I don't know what to say about intelligent design vs. evolution. I believe in God. Like other people say I personally don't believe in Evolution. People are going to believe whatever. Don't think it ought to be taught in school only because there's too many religions and beliefs that you wonder why. If there's only one Bible but people interpret differently. I do believe that there's only one true religion out there. I mean think about it there's only one Holly Bible right? Today they say one thing and tomorrow another. People are entitle to their own opinion. There's a time for God and time for school.

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btex said...

I think Intelligent Design should be offered in school. But it should be taught in a way that they are teaching the ideas and theories. Not in a way that would be considered as preaching or trying to convert students. Because even though you have been taught about evolution for years, it is presented to you in class as a theory and not as a religion. You would offend some parents and students if the class was presented to you as it is in church.

Anonymous said...

athena Smith, how is it a fact have you ever seen a dinosaur 4,5 million yeras ago? has anyone... no they have not so no 1 can say its a fact, and as for carbon dating; When they do it on a dinosaur it turns up 10,00-60,000 yrs old. Thats a fact.... No one Can say how old they earth is. so once again its not a fact.

kortney with a k said...

I feel that intelligent design nor any other religious theory should really be taught in school. I think that subjects such as faith and God should be something you learn at home on your own. It is a very controversial subject and no two people have the exact same opinion on it. So who is anyone to actually teach it? And if they do put it in school, regardless of the issues it could cause. It should be offered as a Religious Theory couse, deffinitely not as a science class. Because thats all it is, it is a theory. Science is where they teach facts. Religion will never be a fact.

Anonymous said...

FYI: is it not possible that carbon dating is wrong! can you say that it takes thousands of years and then all of a sudden have faith that the scientist (willard Libby) possibly made a mistake? Could it be that carbon dating is wrong? why does it only work on things that are a certin age? Carbon dating cant tell me that i was born this many years ago. Bs..

This is how carbon dating works: Carbon is a naturally abundant element found in the atmosphere, in the earth, in the oceans, and in every living creature. C-12 is by far the most common isotope, while only about one in a trillion carbon atoms is C-14. C-14 is produced in the upper atmosphere when nitrogen-14 (N-14) is altered through the effects of cosmic radiation bombardment (a proton is displaced by a neutron effectively changing the nitrogen atom into a carbon isotope). The new isotope is called "radiocarbon" because it is radioactive, though it is not dangerous. It is naturally unstable and so it will spontaneously decay back into N-14 after a period of time. It takes about 5,730 years for half of a sample of radiocarbon to decay back into nitrogen. It takes another 5,730 for half of the remainder to decay, and then another 5,730 for half of what's left then to decay and so on. The period of time that it takes for half of a sample to decay is called a "half-life."

Anonymous said...

Kortney with a K,
Evolution is not a fact why is it taught in science?

Athena Smith said...

For more information on how the age is calculated please see the response of Professor John Cristie, from the School of Chemistry in Victoria, Australia here
More from the University of Michigan

Also an interesting lecture from the University of Houston that gives an account of the "dispute."

Finally my impression has been that the Christian faith and science do not disagree on the matter of the age of the earth. There is a lecture by the Department of Information and Computing Sciences, from the Utrecht University that discusses exactly that here

jliebler said...

I think that President Bush has a very good point and answer for this reporter. Although the article says that Bush has commented more on the topic than any other president in history, but he still does not reveal his position on the way he feels about what should be taught in the public schools. Instead, he answers they question by saying that both theories should be tought to students so they can learn what all the debate is about and then decide for themselves in which they what theory they want to belive and reasearch. Although the public schooling sytem will probably never teach the ways of God creating the earth, I dont think that they should just be choosing one side and forcing that thought on students whether they agree with it or not. Personnally, I think that evolution is completley false, and belive that the world was created by on creator; God.

Aaron M said...

I agree that Intelligent Design should be taught along side Evolution in schools. Both theories have their valid points, but because Evolution is taught more widely than Intelligent Design, Evolution is gaining supporters daily. I personally learned Evolution in high school, and being raised in a Christian home, this caused several clashes with my original beliefs and formed a lot of doubt in them. This loss of faith was caused by the lack of information on intelligent design. I imagine a lot of other students have faced and will face this problem if intelligent design isn't taught in schools. It doesn't necessarily have to be the Bible because not everyone's religion is associated with the Bible's creation, but find away to teach as a scientific theory.

Rashera88 said...

In my opinion I believe that it shouldn't be mentioned in school because if we can't mention God then why should mention evolution? Its only going to cause more contraversery between religious people and scientific people. In which could be brought into the schools. Then no one will learn anything. I say we should leave things the way they are. When people are ready to accept both sides then it should be brought into the schools. I'm not saying it could happen but you never know. In religion its all about Adam and Eve and with the science its all about the mokneys. Who cares where we came from as long as we are here and making the future happen. Maybe, I just hope we can come to an agreement that would be efficient to both sides.

RikRajos said...

My opinion on the subject can go two ways. I have a bias opinion on the "GOD" theory for personal reasons. However, scientific facts are what I believe should be taught in schools. Knowing the bible, which was written by someone a LONG time ago, has many different versions, has been flip flopped, rewritten and whatever else, is the "basis" of the evolution of the world, then I believe that intellegent design should be taken just as seriously. To be honest, I would believe more scientific facts than I would a book that was written by a lot of different people.

countrygirl said...

I don't believe in God, but I also am aware that a lot of people do. Therefore, I think that along with evolution that intelligent design should be taught in school. That way if you do or don't believe in God you hear both sides of it. Not saying that one is right and one is wrong, just saying that if you hear both sides you can make you your mind which you choose to believe. If both are taught in school, then you really aren't saying that one idea is better than the other. You are giving each side of the story and allowing the students to see the controversy over it. This way you are not excluding the people that do believe or don't believe in God. This way the students are not told what to think about the way the world has come to be the way it is. They are given the chance see both sides of the issue and choose what they believe.

phillyfan said...

I believe they are both very good view points and that either one of these could be true and in result making the other one false. I believe in God but as far as the way the world was made i am not to sure. The "Theory of Evolution" is exactly what it says it is, a theory. The belief of god creating the world is also a "belief" and not a fact, so both of these points should be aloud to be taught in the public school system as well as all other religious beliefs from other cultures. For some people to be so closed minded as not to listen or to research the opposing point of view shows plain ignorence. I believe God is a great way to bring people together in church and aswell as making people believe in always doing the right thing as a whole. People having faith and hope is always a good thing so even if God isn't real we can still be looking for something greater and better instead of being out of a job or something and having nothing to turn too when you think all else is lost. People who believe in god should know that he created us with an open mind and we should use it; look at the facts and then make a decision. Just because we may of evolved it does not mean that God is not real. Belief will be tested and Science will show more facts but as an intelligent race we have to see what is true and what is false. Science is not a weapon against religious beliefs but an aid in technology and showing the human race where we came from and a heads-up to where were going.

Jenna said...

Although I do believe in the separation of Church and State, because I do not think that any one religion should be taught to students in public schools, I do think that all possible theories of the beginning of human kind should be taught. Students should decide for themselves what they believe, and should be exposed to all possible explanations and make up his or her own minds. People need to have open minds to learn.

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Avon said...

I think intelligent design vs. evolution should not be made something u have to take in school. This should be a elective. If u dont want to hear this it should be your choice. Some of the things they teach in school the students never use it in the real world. They need to teach things that will help make this world a better place.

Marcos said...

I feel that schools should teach evolution, creationism, and intelligent design as theories not as facts. The school board should supply the ideas and let those students mold their own viewpoints. There is definitely a problem when any administration filters the ideas that you are exposed to and expects everyone to conform. I also believe that different viewpoints can inspire one to think beyond their own culture, that being an important factor to society as a whole. It is important that each person explores the ideology of different belief systems. Knowing all perspectives is an important part of shaping your own sociological beliefs.

NiCa said...

I believe this whole issue about "Intelligent Design vs Evolution" is by far a double standard. I'm all for it because I am a Catholic. I do believe God created this Earth and the universe. Even as a Christian, I feel it would be unfair for other students coming from a variety of different religions to be forced to learn the "Intelligent Design" when they could be Buddhists, Hindu,Islamic,Shinto, etc... I think if we were to teach the Intelligent Design in public schools, it would cause a lot of isolation between the student population. Especially with the groups that are not Christian which subsequently would lead into conflicts between students. I feel that eventually kids will start getting crucified and also will lead others to cast jihads on some students. Oh and let's not forget about the suicide car bombs in the student parking lot. In all reality I really doubt that the Intelligent Design will be taught freely in public and diverse schools.

Anonymous said...

I was educated in catholic school all the way thru high school. Although, I can see my parents reasoning to provide me with a much more structured environment and smaller classes. Now, that I am older I feel like they isolated me from being exposed to different religions and theories on creation. I like many, did not know what intelligent design was. I read a couple of articles to base my feeling on the subject. ID in my opinion is very vague. It doesn’t have a true backbone- I guess that‘s why it’s a theory. Although, I don’t feel like it really stand for anything, children should be exposed to the subject so they can make their own opinion. I want my children to be exposed to all types of religions and different theories. This will give them an opportunity to research and study the material, so they can make an educated stand on their beliefs. I personally, believe in God and that he created this world in his doing. Science to me is an opportunity to see how God designed the layout of different species and their functions. Something will always come from something…we are not magicians and just pull things out of plain air.

catlvr42 said...

I am all for being exposed to different ideas to make and informed decision, but also believe there is a time and place for certain ideas to be shared. Our shool system is set up to teach mainly facts and not so much on teaching beliefs. To me intelligent design is more of a belief; as with religion, with no cosistancy in theory, no scientific study, and no proof. For these reasons it should not be taught in a science class that is based on data, evidence, and testability. If a school offered a religious course or class on alternative science than I think intelligent design would have a place for discussion. Other than these two options, intelligent design should not be required studies.

1004 said...

The debate of intelligent design vs. evolution has been going on for many, many years. As a Christian I don't find it wrong to teach about evolution or to teach about "intelligent design." But the only problem is that there are those who take it way too deep that it causes a controversey. The only reason it causes a controversy is because many people just reason with what they believe in and they don't try to reason with the other side of the situation. Many people who believe in evolution may know basics about intelligent design, but know the depth of the concept and vice versa. If people want to believe in evolution then they should believe in it but they shouldn't take it to the extent where it would "offend" those who doesn't believe in evolution, but believes in the "intelligent design." There are many teachers who struggle with this subject because there are students who will argue that evolution isn't true, but they still have to teach the subject anyways. Personally, I don't believe in evolution. I believe that God created everything, just like it stated in the Bible. But I don't argue with those who believe in evolution. I just let everyone believe what they want to believe; whether it's evolution or intelligent design.

Jess said...

I do not believe that people want to enforce their opinion on others to make them believe it. After all people will only believe what they want to believe. But teaching two things that contradict each other just isn’t logical. No one can say that evolution is how exactly how things came about because there is no proof in that. Granted humans and monkeys have very similar characteristics but obviously no one has ever been able to say that one evolved from the other. When learning about theories in any science class, students understand or should understand that it’s just a Theory and not a Law (which can be proven) Overall, those two sciences cannot coincide within the same system. It’s just as simple as that. You can’t say that atoms contain a nucleus, protons and neutrons and then introduce a new science in which a nucleus doesn’t exist in an atom at all.

AlyssaBeene said...

The theory of evolution is believed by athiests so it is kind of like their basis on a "non religion." Why then should intelligent design not be tought as well. We are taught many theories in high school pertaining to science and different scientists throughout the ages. Intelligent design should be allowed to be included in that debate for kids to really think about and be exposed to. It is almost like saying the children of the public school system do not deserve to be tought everything out there, limiting an education is not what the system is all about.

Athena Smith said...

The theory of evolution is by no means an "atheists'" theory.

DaisyDown23 said...

I also agree with chiquita5. I think it is absurd that they would REPLACE the word of God with the Evolution theory. As stated before, if you take away one so called "theory" than you should not teach another. It would not be fair to students who have a specific belief in God to be taught something that goes against what they were brought up to believe. The reason this matter even came up was because other students were being "exposed" to the possibility of intelligent design and they might not completely agree with that theory. So they push God out of our schools. Fine. But they shouldnt turn around and teach another theory. Either theory would be against what every other student believes in. If you take God out then leave it all out. Let the parents teach the kids where we come from.

Anonymous said...

After doing some research on the intelligent design. I think it is interesting. Do I think that this should be a subject in public shool systems. No, it's just not proven through physical science. Although theology is a science. I do not think that theology is offered in public scools. Though in intelligent design it seems that ther are many references towards god in the christian form. With so many different beliefs and the vast array of cultures in our society today. The government has no right to enforce this subject on kids who are not mature or educated enough to make decions towards beliefs of such. I think that would be bettere left to parents, private institutions, or as an elective in a college atmostphere, as an adult you can have your own theories and beliefs.

JC_Lims said...

I think ID should be taught in public school as a theory not as a fact like science which can be proven by experiments. That way can help students to see other perspectives in life and they can draw their own thought as a learning process.If students get science class as something that has been like that since long time ago,it would be interesting to teach ID as a way to build society from various ideas and backgrounds. Knowing from different aspects would make students being critical thinking.

KaitlynM said...

I usually do not agree with anything President Bush says, but I do agree with this. My parents raised me catholic, even though they are not religious and do not attend church. They wanted me to know both sides so I would be able to make an educated decision for myself. I personally think everyone should take this approach with any argument. You can’t truly argue for one side until you understand both sides. I plan to raise my children in this same manner, and as an education major, I’d love to be able to teach both sides of this debate in my classroom.

Anonymous said...

Anything involving religion should stay out of the school system. Whatever happened to separation of church and state? I do believe in God, but having creationism taught as the "only way" the earth was developed is ridiculous.
I was went to a Baptist middle school, and anything relating to evolution was blacked out of science texts books. This is taking things way too far. If intelligent design is to be taught in the school system then it should be presented in a unbiased matter along with other theories of how we came to be.
If people don't want their children to learn about evolution then they should put their children in private, christian schools or teach them at home. It shouldn't be pushed in the public school system.

Karma Chameleon said...

I think the president has a valid point in saying that both schools of thought ought to be taught so people can understand what the debate is about. It’s about educating people so they can make choices for themselves – not so students are told what to think. People are arguing against religion in schools, but it gets in anyway – if not from the teachers then through clubs or other organizations or individuals with the right to free speech. Because there are so many people on either side of this debate, I doubt that God will be completely eradicated from the education system ever. Anyway, like I said, it’s about educating people on different schools of thought so they can decide for themselves and be informed about what’s going on.

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Anonymous said...

I know that there has been a large debate regarding intelligent design vs Evolution, however with as much knowledge as we are supposed to know, I have not heard anything that has made me believe, for certain, one way or another. I have a religious background and I strongly believe in God, however I am not closed minded to the possibility of Evolution. History has taught us many things including to be open-minded and what we think we may know, is not always true. Otherwise we would still believe that the Earth was flat.

Anonymous said...

I don't know what to say about intelligent design vs. evolution. I believe in God. Like other people say I personally don't believe in Evolution. People are going to believe whatever. Don't think it ought to be taught in school only because there's too many religions and beliefs that you wonder why. If there's only one Bible but people interpret differently. I do believe that there's only one true religion out there. I mean think about it there's only one Holly Bible right? Today they say one thing and tomorrow another. People are entitle to their own opinion. There's a time for God and time for school.

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michelleL said...

I personally have never even heard of intelligent design and after reading this article it seems like Bush has not either. I’m not surprised! Well regardless if he has or not I don’t think his responses to the questions were very “presidential”. I don’t think he ever sounds like he knows what he is talking about and being a president that is really bad!!! I definitely agree with what he was trying to say about people being exposed to different ideas. Definitely, it’s a free country and resources are easily accessible for anyone who wants to go and “expose” him or herself to intelligent design. I never heard of it and from what it says in the article it sound pretty bogus to me. I could be wrong maybe in the future it will be a legitimate theory on the same level as evolution and religion? For now it is (according to the article) a “theory that critics describe as being tantamount to religion” and for him to say that just shows his incompetence as a president!

On the other hand whoever wrote this article may have just been trying to make him look bad. As if enough people don’t like him already?!?!

hurricanes520 said...

I really don’t have an opinion on whether intelligent design and evolution should be taught in schools. If they were being taught I would suggest that these topics be taught in religious classes only. Since some school only teach intelligent design and others only teach evolution I think that this is being biased towards the topic and is giving the upper hand to one or the other. I believe that the student has the right to believe what he or she thinks is the right answer. No one should be forced in a class to choose where they believe in intelligent design or evolution.

Sam Shukla said...

I think that “Intelligent Design” should be taught in a church and not a school. . ‘Intelligent Design”, to me, sounds like a covert attempt at teaching public school students religious beliefs and ultimately converting them, and I am appalled by that.
“Intelligent Design” says that supernatural force had a hand in creating our universe. That to me sounds like a statement based on religious faith rather than science. I believe that religious views should remain separate from the public school system because if only one religious group’s theories are taught in a public school then this becomes discriminatory to all individuals of other beliefs. If something cannot be backed up by some kind of scientific credentials then it is not a fact but rather an opinion. That would mean that the public schools would be telling students what to believe and what not to believe, instead of presenting them with facts and letting them choose for themselves what they want to believe.

EUrban said...

Throughout many of the decisions that President Bush made I actually do agree with this one. I believe that everyone has the right to be informed about different ideas on how people came to be and for the things that science can’t explain. Intelligent Design is a great way to help. This issue of intelligent design does not press any sort of religion on anyone. Therefore keeping church and state still separated. I would allow this teaching so that students may be informed and can make their own decisions since we truly do not know how people truly developed.

Anonymous said...

Yes, I do beleive the Intelligent Design Theory should be taught in our schools, ALONG SIDE the theory or evolution and the theory of creation. To me if this topic is to come into the class room, all the theories need to be presented. If not, than keep the topic out entirely. I have two children in school and have no problem with them being exposed to new ideas. These are theories after all and should be open for discussion. There are very few things I agree with President Bush on.Except, when he is quoted saying "I think that part of education is to expose people to different schools of thought." I agree with him totally.

figlio della lupa said...

I am an Italian so I grew up in a catholic home. My parents have always been very open with me about religion. I am not a catholic myself but they are. We have always believed that science and religion should not mix. Evolution is a pretty convincing theory in my opinion. People should not confuse it for lack of faith or intolerance. People are still allowed to believe in evolution and be religious..like many people around the world.

lil_princess86 said...

I dont know that much about Intelligent Design and Evolution. I would like to learn more about it so therefore I think George Bush was right when he said that both sides should be touch on so that students would understand what the debate is about. When I was reading this article I didnt know what they were really discussing about because I never been taught about it in details. If I would of known more about it I would be able to give a better opinion on it.I will say that people shouldnt be so closed minded about things its good to learn about different beliefs because everybody is different and there is no right or wrong answer.

Anonymous said...

I believe that if you are going to teach one, you need to teach the other. We are taught many theories throughout school that may not be true. So why wouldn’t we teach both of these? I personally don’t believe in the theory of evolution, but I do believe that if the things stated in that theory are in fact true, that they were done so by the hand of God. I do believe that religious beliefs interfere with scientific truths. For example, if you were to tell me that it is scientifically proven that man did evolve from ape, and the bible told me otherwise (which it does), no experiment is going to convince me otherwise. I’m just using that as an example. I don’t need scientific facts to convince me of the unknown things in my life, that’s the meaning behind my faith.

diana25 said...

I believe yes intelligent design should be taught in schools because it is not fair to narrow children’s mind by only teaching them about evolution I believe evolution is false children should know about the realization of a creator who designed the world around them if nothing can be proven by science because no one was there to observe it and no one was there to write down their discoveries then everything that people believe they just believe it by faith so some believe by faith that there is a creator and others believe in theories of evolution so yes in classrooms I do think that creation and evolution should be taught so then people will have the choice to choose what they believe and I think that bibles should be aloud in school and every class should start out with prayer

figlio della lupa said...

I believe I am going to disagree with Diana25. In the United States there is a separation of church of state. The education system is public and therefore connected to the government. For prayer to be presented would violate freedom of religion. Which not only allows for individuals to worship whatever they wish to worship, but it also protects people from having to engage in religious activities they are not part of.

vulcan925 said...

Intelligent design is in my opinion just as silly as making all schools in the US Christian oriented. The idea of having intelligent design was concieved by the Christian right and is today promoted by Christians primarily. You don't hear of many Buddhists, Hindus, or Muslims screaming about it. It is, in my opinion a christian idea of introducing the 700 Club into public schools. There is no evidence of god or any other higher intelligence, at least no tangible evidence. There is tangible evidence for evolution, you see it at a Natural history museum. The only evidence that proponents of ID have is a hunch and the bible,which in no way qualifies as non-fiction. There are more important things that Christians can be focusing on rather than the teaching of ID. Perhaps they could instute new measures to promote equality, cleanliness, and loving thy enemy as thy brother. That sounds like a more sophisticated and proper plan than quibbling about how came be.

Riley said...

Both Intelligent Design and Evolution are very educated theories to our existence. Personally I feel that we could have evolved from primates, however, I do believe that there is a higher power looking over us. Whether or not it is the almighty Creator is only known by himself. It could even be construed that a higher power such as God, J.C. (Jesus Christ) himself, was in charge of evolution and its effects. Also it is not hard to believe in the evolution theory because the similarities between modern day humans compared to chimpanzees are uncanny. Chimps look like smaller and hairier humans. There has been and always will be controversy to our origins as humans. Whether one theory should be taught over another theory is ludicrous to choose between. We are all free-minded people and can choose to believe what we want to because that is our right. It should not be limited to one theory or another.

tquintero728 said...

I do beleive that intellegent design should be taught in schools, although it may go against what some beleive. Evolution is taught in schools, and that may offend some people, but they teach it anyway. If they are aloud to teach about evolution, then intelligent design should definatley be placed in the curriculum. People are entitled to thier own opinions, but if teachers are teaching one side, then they should open it up and offer people the other side. Let the individual make their own mind up.

khester2 said...

First of all I am a Christian and I believe in God and that He created the universe in addition to everything in it. When I was in tenth grade I, along with everyone else, was taught Evolution, Natural Selection, the Big Bang Theory, and many others. I was also taught about Intelligent Design, however, many students in schools today are not. In my opinion, if all of these other theories are presented in high schools than Intelligent Design hould be too. I think it would be fair as well as beneficial for all theories to be offered so students can choose what they would like to believe.

Anonymous said...

I think there are very good arguments to both intelligent design and evolution. I personally I am a believer in god. I think there should be more options in school for kids to learn about religion if they want to. It should be something that is forced on them though. I also dont think it should be just limited to just one religion, there should be several religions taught to give kids a better perspective on world religions. I also think evolution should be taught in school because I think they may be tied in together in a way because it may be god's plan for evolution. He may have greated everthing and it just evolved on its own over time.

MyHead88 said...

My opinion is a simple one, the school system is a tool of life for young, developing minds. Within certain guidelines, the school system is there to educate and prepare students for tasks that they might encounter in adult life. The theory of god and evolution are beliefs and theories. These beliefs and theories should be decided by each individual, they alone are to decide which of the two hold more reason or truth. From that recognition the individual has found meaning to the ideas within their own reasoning, not because of a lecture in class. Thus for these reason I believe intellectual design, and evolution should be topics that are chosen not instructed.

sunflower said...

I think that intelligent design can be taught in school in religious courses, but not in science courses.In religion classes, people,especially those with other religion and culture background, can learn what we believe in. In science classes, we are trained to learn scientific subjects and to learn how to discover the world in scientific way. Science courses focus on scientific methods and scientific theories that are all based on facts. Scientific methods are not only help people to discover the past, like fossil evidence used in evolution and natural selection theories, but also help people to estimate the future. we learn the methods to creat new techniques. In consequence, what we are believe cannot help our science.

Anonymous said...

I believe in a little thing called the separation of church and state. In my opinion, intelligent design or creationism should not be taught in public schools. The poor kids whose parents are trying to force this issue have been indoctrinated enough. Learning some science without a forced Christian twist is not going to hurt them, it may even open there eyes, which is clearly their parents greatest fear. These parents are so worried that their children are going to turn away from the faith that has been chosen for them, that they would rather lie to them than take that risk. These intelligent design parents try to shelter their children from any info that doesn't directly correlate with the bible. They fail to realize that their kids aren't Christians because they have faith; they are Christians because they have been indoctrinated by them since before they could even walk.
They have never been exposed to any conflicting information, and their parents are trying to keep it that way. By propping up intelligent design next evolution as if they are both just as valid as each other, the school would be doing students a huge disservice

Anonymous said...

Well even though I am not a fan of Bush, I do agree with the fact that people, and even young adolescents should be exposed to different ideologies. However, in the school environment, maybe it should be included as an elective like Christian Religion. I believe as human beings in general should always question, research, analyze and come to a conclusion on all sorts of topics, so as not to fall into a sort of dictatorship where they say, “It is so, because Tom says so”. This debate of Intelligent Design vs. Evolution is a great example, because as much as people want to completely eliminate church and state from the school environment, there should always be some sort of spiritualism to enrich our children’s lives. In the recent years, I have been noticing a lot of children who are completely lost, with no faith in anything at all. A lack of God to guide them in a positive manor, and likewise, no fear in God for repercussions if you do something bad. I say lets allow the schools to teach about Intelligent Design, it is a matter of faith, and who is to say god doesn’t have anything to do with evolution? We were given to ability to use our minds and study all sorts of sciences, mathematics, etc. As well as a sense of spirituality, which should not be ignored in schools either. Schools are institution of education, so why not learn about all sorts of religions, sciences, histories, mathematics, etc.

Anonymous said...

My opinion on intelligent vs evolution is the government is going to do and say what ever they think is best for schools and sometimes we have deal with it now we may not agree but in time things like this will come to a pass and you wouldn't care eny more because peolple have gotton use to the RULES of the government way of life. students in school may sometimes find religon to be confusing because of being taught one thing at home then another thing in school and sometime there should be a limit on how far to go into religon in schools unless the parent agrees to it. this is why we have churches to religon on church time. so leave school for school and church for church. i'm a beliver in god and i perfer to learn school and the hearing of god in its own place and time but there are social religon groups at my school that are quickly aside from every one esle that discuss religon for those who want to be involed, i'm still thinking if i want to join. hopefully people vs gornment and intelligent vs evolution will all come to one big agreement.

roxanita said...

Society marks our beliefs differently some more than others, but why not teach intelligent design vs. evolution in different levels for an individual’s personal perception, when we can do this with various subjects? Every one has different perspectives about this specific subject now more than before, but is it because we are gaining more scientific intelligence or because we have forgotten our origin? Its like teaching adolescents about The Odyssey, it’s not hurting to expand their imagination, neither do they have to “understand what the debate is about.” Researches should gather “guinea pigs” and see what the outcomes come to be for what they are looking for.

Athena Smith said...

For those of you who recently graduated from highschool, didn't your school offer an elective in religious studies?

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roxanita said...

I just graduated high school and no they did not offer and courses of the sort, in English teachers talked about the subject briefly but did not want to go in depth because they didn’t want to “get in trouble” that’s what one of my teachers actually said.

hrad said...

If critics say that studying intelligent design is the same as studying a religion, then I believe intelligent design should not be required in a student’s curriculum. There would be a lot of unneeded controversy if the religious theory were required for students unwilling to take it under their own values. However, I do believe it would be a great course to take if chosen by the student in both high school and college. I went to a public high school where religious studies were not an elective course. Although I can see religious studies available in public high schools, I cannot see it as a required course. Intelligent design is a very interesting theory and I view that the study should be available for students that chose to learn about it.

wmp8807 said...

I just really think that this whole argument is full of nonsense!I think neither Intelligent Design nor Evolution sbould be taught in our schools. We can't talk about God so why should we be able to talk about that! It would truely be a total waste of our tax dollars to talk about a "Theory". Letting one be allowed and not the other wouldn't exactly be what America is all about. I am a true believer in God and the Holy Trinity. If people actually thought about all this other stuff they would see how crazy it sounds, like in Evolution, if we evolved from apes then how come they are still around???

Athena Smith said...

It is very hard to prove a theory beyond doubt. This is why scientists are sceptical and often try to disprove a theory. Then they know it is wrong (If you have taken statistics you remember how we phrase the null hypothesis).
So far evolution has not been disproven.
However intelligent design is not an alternative theory but tries-on the surface at least- to fill in the gaps of evolution. Pope Benedict said that there is substantial scientific proof of the theory of evolution.

However when U.S. District Judge John E. Jones barred the teaching of ID from public schools science classes, he said that Intelligent design was creationsim in disguise and thus it violated the constitutional separation of church and state. Mind you the Judge was a Republican and deeply religious. You may read the article here

Anonymous said...

I am a firm believer of Christ and yes I am a Christian and grew up in church. I believe that if one can follow the teachings of evolution than there should be no reason for one to not believe the teachings of intelligent design. Both topics should be taught in schools or at least mentioned and touched upon. It shouldn't be that one is neglected and the other taught in depth. Being a believer of God, I know it's extremely hard to get people to understand my beliefs and thoughts because some people have the misconception that just because something isn't visible it couldn't have happened. Well, NEWSFLASH, one may not be able to see God, but you also cant see the process of evolution. So I have to ask, how can one believe that one thing happened and the other didn't when both have supporting background information, yet both are not visible to the human eye? If one is brought up in school studies than the other should be brought up too. I'm not here trying to turn nonbelievers into "full blood Christians", I'm just stating what I think is right and fair.

Live Your Life said...

I strongly believe in intelligent design. I am also very religious, although I have my own beliefs and practices that do not fall into any of the more prominent religions. Despite my strong faith I think that the issue of Government (school) and the issue of religion are two completely separate issues and should not be intertwined. No form of religion should ever be a mandatory teaching in our school system. The theory of evolution is a theory that does not favor any one religion. However the devote Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, etc, should not be upset about the theory of evolution, because the government isn't saying "This is how it happened. This is what you need to believe." They're teaching you something to provoke your own thoughts and ideas about how it happened. Its more of a guideline. So in my opinion any form of religion, regardless of which one, should never be a mandatory teaching in our school system. Our country is not supposed to belong to one religion, its supposed to accept and embrace the fact that everyone has their religious beliefs and practices.

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BucFan1984 said...

This is one of those issues that is going to get a lot of people up in arms for both sides in my opinion it is a good idea. I think it is good because not only are you getting the scientific side of the issue your get a basic religious approach. The teachers have to be careful in the way the argument comes off. If you make it too religious then there is the argument of teaching religion in school so it is best to stick to the fringes and basic truths and not get into too much religion. It is always good to hear both sides of a story so you can make your own decision on what to believe.

Anonymous said...

Yes, I think Intelligent Design should be taught in our schools, as long as it was done in a scientific manor. Meaning it’s taught in a manor of a scientific theory and not preaching religion. There should be data, research and valid facts to support the theory of Intelligent Design. It should also be taught along side of natural selection/ evolution to show Intelligent Design is a contrasting theory to how the world came to be. If it was elected to be taught in school in the future, it would be a touchy subject and need to be done so within strict guidelines. So that it’s presentation was as of an educational theory rather than a lecture in bible study. This would prevent stepping on the toes or crossing over the line of any non-believers.

PamberM said...

Yes, I think Intelligent Design should be taught in our schools, as long as it was done in a scientific manor. Meaning it’s taught in a manor of a scientific theory and not preaching religion. There should be data, research and valid facts to support the theory of Intelligent Design. It should also be taught along side of natural selection/ evolution to show Intelligent Design is a contrasting theory to how the world came to be. If it was elected to be taught in school in the future, it would be a touchy subject and need to be done so within strict guidelines. So that it’s presentation was as of an educational theory rather than a lecture in bible study. This would prevent stepping on the toes or crossing over the line of any non-believers.

Alex said...

I’ve re-read this article plenty of times and view people’s comments to get an idea of what this is really about. I, for one, haven’t really heard about intelligent design before, but I’m glad I do now. I feel that people shouldn’t HAVE to listen to others to believe in something. I feel they should be able to believe in what they want to believe and take their own actions to support it. I believe that what is said now, won’t be the same view as time goes on and I think that’s what messes up everyone. They lean towards an idea from someone else, rather than their own, and it just messes them up once more ideas are put into the picture. Views change all the time and there really isn’t a possible way to stop it. I believe if Intelligent Design was taught in school, it would be okay, but also a risk at the same time.

tabi said...

i have never heard of intelligent design, but i have heard of God.lol why dont they just call it teaching christianity in school, to me i dont have a problem with it, i am a christian and do belive in God. This world had to come from somewhere and im pretty sure it wasnt from a "big bang", God intelligently designed this world the way he wanted it, if he wanted us to know every single detail of how we got here he would have gave us the inteligence to find it out, just like the question "where do babys come from?". I think people just need to have an open mind about things and veiw both sides and it will be up to them what they want to belive, and teaching this subject in school would open there mind to 2 oposing belifs.

Jeremy Marshall said...

I dont think that any creation theories should be taught in schools, but if you are going to force students to learn about one subject then it isnt just to leave out another. I am a believer in god and i think anyone who believes we came from monkeys has got to be out of their mind. If it was true that we evolved from monkeys how come they dont evolve anymore? they just decided to stop? Like is said if you are going to teach one "theory" then teach the other, or make an entire seperate course based soley on how the earth was created.

Athena Smith said...

I see there is a lot of misunderstanding about both evolution and intelligent design.
Evolution says that monkeys and humans have had commmon ancestors.

Anyway, both sides are supported by various laymen and scientists alike. But intelligent design does not appear to be creationsim. Why? Because the scientists who support it differ from fundamentalist creationists as they agree with evolutionists that some species do change (but not much) and that the Earth is far oldre than a mere 6,000 years. They simply reject the idea that evolution can explain everything. Thus they try to have ID included in the science curriculum.

So do remember. Most ID supporters accept evolution as well.

APhilibert said...

I believe that intelligent design should be taught in school. I say this, not because I believe in a god but, because students should be able to choose what they believe. How many children in America think of the Indians and pilgrims as sitting down to a nice Thanksgiving feast? As a child you are taught they were very friendly to each other. You grow up and find out they were giving each other blankets full of small-pox and raping their wives and daughters. Both evolution and intelligent designs should be taught in school because information is power, and critical thinking doesn’t hurt either. The kids going through school are our future, and I know that I don’t want a bunch of robots who can’t think for themselves running the country when I’m old.

Athena Smith said...

Aphilibert has made a very good point. High school text books can be very selective in what they teach.
OUt of curiosity I am wondering if you were taught about the Vietnam war in your school? Or about the concentration camps in which Japanese Americans were isolated during WWII?

On the other hand history texts all over the world can be and I think are very selective. So we are all raised with the misconception that our nation-whatever that may be- has done little wrong.

max said...

I personally don’t understand what’s the big controversy is. We should be teaching both intelligent design and the theory of evolution. If there are two sides of anything the school system should be teaching both and let the student come up with there own conclusion. As long as these things are taught as theories and not fact I am fine with it. But I do however think that the science class might not be the best place to be teaching it. Maybe they should teach it in a World History since the theory would be discussing what happen in the past and how we might have evolved into human beings.

Megan said...

My personal belief is that religion and science play a part in our creation. Scientist can show you bones and evidence that we have changed over the years. As to our creation it cannot be all chance that in an explosion everything was formed. Both parts play a role in our lives, and both should be taught. Now, I am not saying intelligence design is right, I have don't believe we look exactly like the cavemen, but we might have similar characteristics to God. A school's purpose though is to teach children not just facts, but teach them how to think for themselves. Children are taught in school to obtain higher level thinking. This higher level thinking makes it where each individual child can think reasonably for their own self and decide what they believe in. We should not be dictating our children's beliefs by telling them only this can be true. Do you tell a young child they can only color the sky blue? Or do you let them choose themselves and decide what they would like it to be? Not one belief decided what the world is, we have many theories and ideas. We need to inform children of all the options and let them experience life themselves to decide what they believe.

lidget33 said...

Intelligent design should not be taught in public schools. I feel it’s up to the parents to teach a faith based theory. Public schools are government run schools; religion has no part in them. There are many well run private schools that can teach your children religious theories. American education standards are lacking enough. Also, how much of my tax dollars have been wasted for politicians to argue this in Washington? I just don’t see what the fuss is about. How hard is it for a parent to explain intelligent design? I was taught both in high school biology. Am I damaged from being taught intelligent design, no; but why bother. Chances are by the time you do learn evolution in school your parents or church has already explained intelligent design. Evolution has been researched and studied for many years; it just didn’t end up on that mandated curriculum because it was the best sounding theory. I remember the chapter lasting maybe one day in high school, so both sides can suck it up for one day.

Anonymous said...

What? No, all this mess should be kept out of schools. Intelligent design is all bogus, sorry. Another example of people trying to push their values on everyone else. Specifically, the most impressionable people: the younger kids. School systems aren't the best lately, and just adding another ingredient to the piss-pot might just make it that much more worse.

Unknown said...

There are many things that can be argued about concerning the article. The President was asked weather or not he thought both should be taught in school and said yes. However he did not say that one was right over the other. I think thats what the writer was looking for. The President has to be very careful of how he answers questions like that so as not to appear to be discriminatory of anyones personal beliefs. I too am a Christian and believe in creation however that does not really answer the question. No I don't see in reason to focus on Intelligent Design (which I agree is an inaccurate idea of creation) as well as Evolution simply becuase I believe they are both faulty. Honestly it doesn't really matter one or the other since they are both just THEORIES. Neither can be proved. So as a Christian I find it irrelevant. As far as I am concerned is just another of the worlds theories where they are grasping at straws trying to understand something we were never meant to.

Petit Monde said...

I come from a country that is 94% Christian. My family is Roman Catholic, so I was raised the same way. It then made sense to attend a Catholic school. Religion was a part of the curriculum, but so was science. I don’t recall when I was growing up any issue on how the world and everything in it started. In my young mind, creation and evolution both co-existed. There are things and events that can be explained through intelligent design, but not through evolution and vice versa.
Now that I am older and living here in the United States, I honestly still feel the same way about it. My religious beliefs are still as strong as they were 10-20 years ago despite that I have gained more interest and knowledge in science. I think that intelligent design should be allowed to be taught in school. Although I do not elect for it to be mandatory, it should at least be an option just like in colleges and universities.

bklynblog said...

I think it's funny how schools don't think it's "appropriate" to pray in school, but are having a debate over Intelligent Design vs. Evolution. To me, this whole thing is about respect. Take the pledge for instance. Kids say the plaedge every day in school. They do so because they are taught to have respect for their country. The schools don't deny this to students because, they to share the same respect for America. Now, I think that a student wanting to learn more about what the Bible has to say about the way we were created should be given the same respect. I do agree that schools should offer intelligent design as an alternative to evolutionout to respect people's different beliefs.

Celina said...

I agree, to an extent, with George Bush. I agree that students should be exposed to both theories and the differences between the two. However I feel that they should not be pressured to believing any one specific theory. Both theories, Intelligent Design and Evolution both have good supporting evidence as well as their fair share of valid points. I happen to agree and lean more towards evolution however I feel that it is more likely because evolution was more heavily taught than Intelligent Design when I was in school. As a young person I feel like my future generations should be exposed to both scenarios in order to make their own judgment calls and have their own believes.

bklynblog said...

I think it's funny how schools don't think it's "appropriate" to pray in school, but are having a debate over Intelligent Design vs. Evolution. To me, this whole thing is about respect. Take the pledge for instance. Kids say the plaedge every day in school. They do so because they are taught to have respect for their country. The schools don't deny this to students because, they to share the same respect for America. Now, I think that a student wanting to learn more about what the Bible has to say about the way we were created should be given the same respect. I do agree that schools should offer intelligent design as an alternative to evolutionout to respect people's different beliefs.

Britt said...

Like many other bloggers, I have also heard alot about the intelligent design vs. evolution discussion for a while now. I feel it is a stupid excuse for being scared of believe in God. People who do not believe in God are trying to make up stories that sound interesting to try to convience more people(especially the youth in schools)to have false information about God and life. I feel that if the subject of God is so controversal in schools and if His name causes so many problems in schools, then no other alternative should be accepted and taught. I'm a strong believer in God and i believe in how he created this world and man-kind. There really is no hard proof of the creation of life except the Bible. Why can't others accept that and believe in that and spread that word over "evolution" and monkeys being the begining of man-kind? Anyone agree?

Britt said...

Also, i'm not trying to step on anyones toes but if intelligent design and evolution are taught in schools, which is ok, then i think its only fair if the lesson of God is also taught. Thats my opinion.

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Dawid said...

Personally I believe in God to the fullest extent know to man. And how i feel about this

situation is that the intelligent design knowledge should not be inflicted into the minds of

public school students or any school of any sort. Why because key word people public these

schools are attended by many cultures,races,genders,opinions,andlastly beliefs why cause it's

open to the public. I agree with the statement or example that bklynblog said in a sense....

"Kids say the pledge every day in school. They do so because they are taught to have respect for

their country. The schools don't deny this to students because, they to share the same respect

for America. Now, I think that a student wanting to learn more about what the Bible has to say

about the way we were created should be given the same respect". And with them teaching or

starting this intelligent design in school will start negative vibes,controversy,and conflicts

and people should already know the problems that with evolution being taught in schools is just

out right ridiculous, ludacris, and disturbing in a sense to hear we as humans came from a

monkey. And hears a theory or question to that if we came from monkeys then how in the world

were monkeys created and if they say dust then how was dust created, how was

grass,air,life,elements, and etc. created it could'nt have just poof and appeared people there

has to be a creator of some sort and no it cannot be aliens lets be serious here thats just

outrageous. Therefore something has to be done and we as Americans have to speak out on this

situation thats why president bush is in the situation and position he is in now cause some

people failed to speak out for the election some did and some didnt but by bush winning the

election against al gore, that should have won my opinion and the peoples opinion, but by that

not happening clearly states that we dont count through this supposed population vote or

election not being enough for gore to win aside from all the other votes he got and won. And

either we like it or not the system we live in is crooked who ever is in the white house or

offices that deals with the election and makes the last decision with it, elects who ever they

please and want and now cause who ever, we lost or in some cases almost lost many loved ones

with 9/11 including my loved one in NY with my brother which was working 2 blocks from the twin

towers a.k.a world trade center. But thank God he made it out of there safe. and as a New Yorker

I am disturbed with the actions with the president cause like with the Hurricane Katrina

situation in New Orleans nothing was done, given or sent by him to the people affected or

effected just America trying to do what it always does through red cross and etc.. Which is fill

in the gap for the bridge still not formulated. And also to a certain extent through the

airwaves or media it didnt seem as though he cared either. Besides say "War against terrorism"

like thats making a difference so what about it nothing being done besides another troop or

innocent bi-stander heard dead,gone,captured or kidnapped. And of course lets not for get this

who ever sending troops to unknown wars or fights unwanted for his aspects or accusations for

oil or whatever he was skeeming on doing and he was with this so called claims of our troops are

fighting for war against terrorism act was crazy at one point our troops protecting these people

some innocent some not with acts of terrorism and he is leaving our troops for dead and sending

them there for nothing for his personal vendetta or his war so to speak. From the first attack or attempt to attack

the world trade center back in 1991-1994 should have been a sign not to elect bush and company because of the

damages made by their decisions back at that time period but why was he elected or president is still an unknown unknown.

Those of us that believe in God and the real being that we trust and know just pray and be stead

fast and ready cause this world is only gonna get worst. 1

jadams05 said...

I think this should be taught in schools because these are facts that everyone should know. I think students should know,but others have there own opinion about the matter. So I guess it could be a good think that we learn about this or could be a bad think. Being that it is about christ its a little touchy because everyone had there own believes and debates will more than likely break out because of the class, so it might be a good think that we keep it as is its hard to say.

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Jennifer said...

You got it wrong. Intelligent design is not creationsim. Creationsim is only taught in theocratic schools. Professor Smith gave a link in which the Pope himself accepts evolution. It seems to me that so many in this class are going against scientific facts. The bible is not science, is written by humans, copied by humans and edited over and over and over. Have you heard of microbes that have grown resistant to antibiotics? That is evoution. Have you heard of species becoming extinct? That is evolution.

tinabeana said...

To be honest I’m still trying to figure out what both are. I don’t quite understand what each one means. So in my opinion I think both sides should be taught, at least explained. So people like me can understand fully the difference between the two and make an informed decision in which they want to believe. Reading some of the responses, I’m kind of getting that maybe intelligent design is: God created us and put us here as humans and that’s it. And evolution is monkeys happened to be here and humans evolved out of them. That intelligent design is more natural and evolution is more science.

Ashley Marie said...

There has always been great debate on what should or shouldnt be taught in public schools, reliion and evolutionary topics seem to always be at the forefront of theses debates. As of right now evolution is tautght in our public school system simply because the entire concept revolves around science. Religion however, is not taught in schools because it is reliant upon fate and could be pregiditial in the classroom. So based upon these facts, and guidelines set by the american government to date, no i do not think it should be taught along side evolution. Another reason i believe it shouldnt be taught is because it is a fairly new concept where has evolution has been around and researched for a very long time. Now, if they wanted it taught in college and uper level learning, where the students pick their own classes and would be personally choosing to attend the class is an entirely different situation all together.

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"Hey Man" said...

Although I believe in God, I do not agree with the theory of intelligent design being taught in science class... Intelligent Design is rooted deep in religion. If intelligent design is going to be taught in school then it needs to be taught as a religion class. But the government does not allow religious studies in public schools, therefore if intelligent design is going to be taught in public schools then why can’t you talk about God in public schools.

mndz05 said...

I myself like tinabeana am not to sure about Intelligent Design. Although by reading other people's opinion and looking it up online have a slight understanding of it. If I had to choose a side on whether it should be taught in public schools or not I would choose that it shouldn't be taught. I feel that everyone is accustomed to their own religion and have their own beliefs. They shouldn't have to sit in a classroom where they are going to be taught things other than what they believe. In the long run if they do decide to have it in the school system it should be up to the student to take it as an elective. Also be taught as a religion class not science.

Qt said...

I don’t think it is right for intelligent design to be taught in a science class because it isn’t something that can be proved through a test or experiment. In school, kids should only learn things that are proven facts or strongly supported by facts. If intelligent design is going to be taught in public schools it should be in a religion class that is only there if you WANT to take to learn about different religions. Intelligent design shouldn’t be something that is forced on anyone to learn because a lot of it is just speculation. If people think that it is such a big deal for intelligent design to be taught in school, why don’t they want you praying or learning about God?

tennispro said...

I think that the issue is not whether or not students should be exposed to different theories such as intelligent design, because i think that they definitely should. I think the issue is deciding at what age they should be exposed to these theories. i believe that it is healthy for students to hear all sides of the story because, after all, once they are out of school and out in the "real world" they will be forced to have an opinion on issues such as this. I think that younger students such as elementary and middle school aged students should not be taught about the theories of evolution or intelligent design because they are not yet mature enough to fully understand these theories and they may get confused between them and the religious views that they have been taught by their parents. i do however think that the theory of intelligent design is a perfectly acceptable topic for older students in high school. These studets have had a chance to establish their religious views and decide whether or not they want to consider intelligent design as a theory that they believe, whereas younger studdents are just too impressionable to face diciding something as great as this.

jmcdonald10 said...

When it comes to the argument between Intelligent Design vs. Evolution, I think that this is something that will never be settled. It is what a person believes in that will decide which theory is right. I think that when asking the question, which theory should be thought in school, I would say that both. When educating students about both of them this gives them the opportunity to understand and then deiced which one they believe in. If we only said that one was right, students would not understand what the other own was about. Although most people only think that one of the theories is right, we have to keep in mind that everyone is entitled to their own opinion

Collegeboi said...
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Collegeboi said...

I think that that Intelligent design should be taught in schools. I believe what the Bible says and that God created all living things. Whether or not intelligent design or evolution will be taught depends on the population itself. Do they believe that God created humanity or that the big bang happened and we eventually evolved from primates? Why do scientists always want to explain everything when somethings aren't meant to be explained?

WhiteChoc said...

Unfortuntly I am not very familar with the topic of Intelligent Design vs. Evolution. However, I feel that this is not a topic which should be addressed to elementary or junior high students. This topic should be addressed at high school level in the junior or senior year. At the age where children are more open to new ideas and concepts and have the cabibility to research further and realize they are free to feel differently than others. However, to ensure they are fully educated on both sides religion will also have to be discussed. Which has been taken out of schools. Therefore, the possibility of the public agreeing to this topic being taught in school prior to college is unlikely.

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Goob07 said...

Honestly, this is the first time that I have heard about the intelligent design theory. I don’t know if that means that I have been living under a rock or what … However, I do believe that it is hugely unfair that certain theories are kept out of schools solely because they are nearly religious in content. The issues that everyone talks about outside of the classroom is the stuff that most students would love to have a discussion about! I agree with President Bush when he says the theory should be introduced to students along side with the traditional evolutionary theory. What’s the harm in giving out more information?

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Unknown said...

No! I do not feel that intelligent design should be taught in our schools or anywhere else for that matter. I do not believe in intelligent design, I believe that God is the maker of human beings and of earth, not aliens or monkeys. But if the government really wants to teach about how human beings evolved from apes then teach it as a theory and never as a fact. But always make sure that the other side is taught, how God created humans. The schools might be better off just taking everything out and letting people go to Sunday school at church to learn more about God. That would probably save the most arguments that way.

loveb822 said...

Quite frankly, I think this whole argument within the government is really stupid. I’ve heard about the intelligent design vs. evolution briefly mentioned before, but I’ve never really taken the time to read in depth about it, until now. I’m a strong believer in God and how this world came to be the way it is. I don’t think there should be one set way to look at something. Everyone should be entitled to have their own views, but not to view them as the one and only right way. This theory has been talked about forever and still there is no definite outcome of the “truth”. Change occurs frequently, and new ideas are constantly being developed and knowing this who is to determine the truth from the deceiving. I think this whole argument should just be dropped. It’s flat out ridiculous

Tara Johnson said...

First, I would like to start out by saying I am a Christian and, this whole controversy is really about God, and whether or not our past is understood without him. Everyone will have there own beliefs and opinions about certain issues but, that is what makes us free Americans. Science and belief in God are incompatible, modern science was actually first noticed out of Christian beliefs that god was a fair and personal creator. Many scientists today believe in a creator but that includes a huge range of beliefs on the creative process. I believe god created everything outside of natural laws to create our world within. However, what has triggered this huge debate in society today has been the amazing new discoveries that have some individuals convinced that there is new evidence for intelligent design. My personal Opinion is that if the school systems don’t allow for religion to be spoken in schools then many will not understand the true depth behind such a God. I wish there where more teachings today in our school system due to the fact that there are never too many stories of gods creations. It is only fair that if the school system is teaching evolution then students should also hear about the Christian version of how the world developed, and human beings.

kirsten austin said...

I do not support the teaching of intelligent design in schools. If we were to teach intelligent design, the we should be teaching the students about Vishnu and Mangala as well. As great as the idea sounds to have schools that would teach religion as they would history, unbiased and on a strictly informative level rather than forcing beliefs, it would be tough to find enough teachers willing to do so. Also, so many ideas could confuse the students. Just the idea of teaching intelligent design only, as well as teaching evolution is pretty crazy to me, just because I remember how young I was when those ideas were presented to me. The ideas taught to a child when they are young usually shape what they believe when they are older. I think that teaching intelligent design in schools is on par with teaching religion, and we shouldn’t push religion in schools. Those who seek knowledge will find it. Children and students should have the choice to learn about religion at their own discretion.

Lanlande said...

I read this article about "intelligent Design vs.Evolution" but i don't really get it. according to what i read i believed "intelligent Design" should though in school . And the question that i ask is why government schoose to talk about that now when they were supposed to taught about long time ago. why schoose now. God is good and perfect and the word of him should be thought whenever any time, anywhere.

COWABUNGAAAA!!! said...

Intelligent design should not be taught in schools. Every parent that wants their child to know about religion usually tell them about it themselves while they’re young. They go to church with them, send them to bible school, youth group, etc. Other parents want their children to find religion on their own, not from a school teacher. Religion is a choice and shouldn’t be forced on anyone. There’s a church on just about every corner, if somebody wants to hear about religion, then that’s where they should go. Schools need to stick to the essentials. Half the kids my age (according to a National Geographic survey) can’t even find New York on a map. I’m pretty sure we don’t have a lot of spare time to teach intelligent design.

sunshine said...

It would be a good idea to teach this in public schools. Not as a requirement to graduate, but as an elective to learn in depth both sides. This would give students an option to take it if they wanted to learn about it and not be forced to hear it if they don't want to. This will give every one a chance to make their own thought and opinion of either category. The difference is that if a person only knows or hears one side then they have been pretty much persuade to making that particular descision. I personaly don't like to think of my ancestors being a bunch of monkeys. I like to think that God created us and everything that surounds us. I am a person that doesn't need a proven fact to know it is right or true. I like to think that things happen for a reason and the answer isn't always in science. Still I would like to learn more of both sides.

Chicest Set said...

Personally I dont believe we should teach one belief with out teaching or attempting to teach all beliefs; that way each individual interprets and comes up with his or her own conclusion or understanding. I believe there is a God and my God may be someone else's "alien" who created everyone and everything. Either way we both believe there is another being out there, we just dont call that being by the same name. I dont believe we simply evolved from another creature but if it is a possiblility then why not learn about it and allow everyone the opportunity to consider something else.

SocialButterfly said...

I have'nt heard anything about intelligent design. I googled a defintion and I recieved: "a debate about the existence of God, based on the premise that "certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection." I also read almost everyones comments on this debate and honestly I'm not comfortable with this subject. I believe in God and I am trying to learn more about Him and this subject just confuses me. So my opinion would be this: If people wanted to be informed of ID vs. Evolution, then perhaps make it a college class. Example: Intelligent Design theory vs. Evolution theory 101, or Theory Class 101, that might even bring up other theories as well. This way if anyone wants to be properly informed they have a way to learn and students who don't agree can just not take the class.

richwhitegirl said...

I believe that you can not only teach one way of thinking because their is always going to be one person that is always going to be curious and want to know more why limit our youth lets broaden their horizon so we can learn more and not become mongoloids.

Ro-twin said...

I think Intelligent Design should be taught in our schools. I did not even know what intelligent design was. I had to look it up. I think it would be a good idea because i took so many science classes coming up in the world not once it was ever mentioned. I felt narrow minded because i did not know what intelligent design even was. I feel we should be at least informed about everything known to man. It is ridiculous how schools are excluding important things from are agenda. Basically it made history we should know about it. Science teachers should at least mention it at least once so we can at least say we heard of intelligent design.

Anonymous said...

It blows me away how many of these comments do not simply answer the question of whether or not intelligent design should be taught in school as a theory. Instead, many are postings of individual beliefs and how that person believes it should be taught alongside evolution for that reason. I disagree with those individuals on one thing--I do not believe intelligent design should be taught in schools because I go to church and it is amongst many factors that form my religious foundation. Regardless of whether intelligent design I believe intelligent design is fact or fiction, it is still a theory used to explain how a large number of people believe the earth and its inhabitants were created; therefore, it should be taught in schools as that, a theory that may or may not be how it all happened. We dont know how it all came to be and until a theory is proven, all we can do is look at the various theories and decide individually which one we lean towards--its the job of teachers to inspire individual thinking.

dwtc said...

I am no stranger to this argument. I have heard about it many times growing and even still recently. The answer to the question? BOTH methods of creation should be though in schools. Not one method should be taught as correct but should be taught from a standpoint of, "this is just a theory." After both methods have been fully presented then the student has a basis for a decision of his or her faith. Teaching evolution to be the one and only way may be in disagreement to some such as myself, but maybe not to others. And teaching intellegent design might piss a few people off. So then, teaching both methods and allowing the student to make a choice leaves everyone blameless and an open decision. We obviously live in a world that has split opinions about creation, so why not avoid the conflict and teach both sides and allow the freedom of choice.

awal said...

I personally believe in the bible and how the bible tells the world started. But, although I believe that, I still think that ALL of the different ideas (creation, intelligent design, evolution...) should all be taught. I think this because i agree with Bush that the people in schools should be exposed to different ideas. I think that exposure will open their minds to see different ideas. We learn about different religions all the time, why not different ideas of how we came to be?

Girl_in_the_Front said...

No. We have separation of CHURCH AND STATE. Religion contracts itself so many times that those who chose to raise their children with it have no right to demand that evolution is not taught in school. Evolution is a proven phenomenon, intelligent design is religion. If there were proof for religion, there would not be debate as to what religion is correct - there would only exist the religion that has been proven. Anyone who believes the earth is 5,000-7,000 years old is an idiot, and they have no right to force their religious beliefs on children that aren't theirs, nor do they have the right to deny children a basic understanding of what our world is and how it came into being (the truth, not what some farmers scribbled down through word of mouth generations after "god told them"). You can have your bibles and what you think is right because you feel it in your heart/god tells you and whatever else, but KEEP IT TO YOURSELF. People object to teachers pushing their political beliefs on students, and religion is no different - it is a belief/opinion, not fact and definitely not something that should be taught in schools

Tink1213 said...

I think that both Evolution and Intelligent Design should be taught in school. Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs outside of school, so why not in school? Instead of forcing people to listen to something that they do not believe in and then test them on it, they should be allowed to further their education in what they believe in. There were plenty of kids in my high school who failed the Evolution test because they chose not to sit in on the classes because of their religion. For those who haven’t formed an opinion as to whether they believe in Evolution or Intelligent Design can listen to both sides and then form an opinion.

jalane88 said...

I think that Intelligent Design should be taught in school. I don't feel like if schools begin teaching these ideas or theories that they are forcing students to believe any certain way. Evolutionary studies would still be taught, Intelligent Design would just be added in alongside of it. If we are so big on being open minded in this country than I think our students need to know all of the theories that are going around and the studies that are happening now in the Science field. Of course as a Christian I believe in Intelligent Design and God as the ultimate creator of all of us and our Universe, but I don't think one theory should be emphasized over the other. I want my children to be well-rounded and know about what is going on in the world around them. I also believe that if we want the next generation to stand for what they believe in, they need to know what they believe in and that means being well educated in every area.

Silly Puddy said...

I believe that intelligent design should not be taught in schools because let face the facts this earth has only been around several thousand years. Our human history is based off the bible. I love when evolutionist say that dinosaurs have evolved several millions years ago but can’t prove it with any concrete evidence. In a nut shell it is only theories. At the same time we already have over fifty-thousand religions on this earth. Should one more be added to this planet? I love this picture of a person resembling God with apes evolving to a human. If that was the case, and we evolved from apes, then why do we still have them on this planet as an ape?

gator_girl26 said...

I believe that Intelligent Design should be taught to students in public schools. I think the students have a right to know both opinions on how our universe was created, the debate between those who favor the religious point of view over the scientific point of view or vice versa. I am a firm believer in God and that he created the Universe (Refer to the Bible; start with the very first sentence, “In the beginning, God created the Heavens and the Earth” Genesis 1:1). It wasn’t created by the Big Bang Theory or that the creatures on this Earth came from evolution.

Jennifer said...

You forgot to mention that the earth is flat and that should be taught too....

pcgirl said...

I believe that everyone should know about both theories. Just as some people believe god created all, others do not. Intelligent design should be offered as an elective class in schools but not a required class. You can not force people to take a class that is so controversial. I think the class would help people who are not sure about the theory understand it better. Personally I would take the class and strongly recommend it to others. Most people get so caught up in their religious beliefs that they curse anything that does not support their beliefs. People need to open their eyes to different things and learn as much as they can about everything. If everyone did what they were told was right or wrong nothing would ever get discovered or invented, like the earth being round, the heliocentric theory, or gravity. People had to stand up for what they believed was right and not what they were told was right. I believe everyone should open their minds to new things even if they do not agree because the person sitting next to you may.

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JR8 said...

I think if they are going to teach about one of the theories’s in school then they need to also teach the other theory in school. I know there not supposed to teach religious beliefs in school because it could offend some people. Then that be the case they should not be able to teach about evolution in school because it could offend somebody who believes that god created everything. So in order for this to be solved, which it will never be they just need to teach both theory's in school and give the kids both sides of the story and let them chose for themselves which theory they believe in.

aw6349 said...

I think that it is a good idea to teach intelligent design in our school system. That way people can be educated on the science side of thing and then also know about the religious side of things. That way they can choose which side to believe. I believe that people should know both sides of an arguement before they make a judgement because if they make a judgement and don't know the other side of the arguement then they don't have all the information to make that judgement.I believe that religion should be taught in school, so should intelligent and evolution. That way we know all of the facts before we decide to open our mouths to have an opinion about any of the three.

mdowd said...

Bush said "I think that part of education is to expose people to different schools of thought," and that is something that I agree with. (Did I just say that I agree with Bush? the horror!) I feel that if one theory is to be taught, be that intelligent design, evolution, or whatever, alternatives must be presented as well, in order to allow students to investigate multiple aspects of a given topic. I don't know if I'd go as far as to demand, or support demands, that intelligent design be taught in schools, but it does make sense to me to expose students to a wide variety of beliefs. I was taught to belive in God as the creator of heaven and earth, but not by my school. My parents and the Church taught me about that. I wonder who would be hailed as the "Intelligent Designer?" I agree with those who have said that religion is a personal thing, to be explored on one's own terms. I also agree with the thought that incorporating intelligent design into a religious theory class that covers many different belief systems would be the only proper way to teach it.

Jackedupballerina said...

All this just sounds like some kind of crazy publicity stunt to me. I don't think it'll bother me as much if it's taught just as its "theory". But, as a religious person I don't think its fair that they want to teach this "theory" in school after they took out all other religious possibilities on how the world was created. Alot of people are going to be very upset if this is put in effect into schools and taught to our children.

Jackedupballerina said...

All this just sounds like some kind of crazy publicity stunt to me. I don't think it'll bother me as much if it's taught just as its "theory". But, as a religious person I don't think its fair that they want to teach this "theory" in school after they took out all other religious possibilities on how the world was created. Alot of people are going to be very upset if this is put in effect into schools and taught to our children.

gjones17 said...

I agree with George W. Bush's opinion that "part of education is to expose people to different schools of thought." I do believe that intelligent design should be taught in schools; however, I think it should be taught right alongside of the evolution theory. If we are going to expose students to one train of thought we should have to teach them another idea. Therefore, if intelligent design is being taught in schools, the evolution theory should be taught also. As long as the theory of evolution and the theory of intelligent design remain theories people can make up their own minds on which theory they chose to believe.

mledoux said...

Should intelligent design be taught in public schools? I couldn’t have agreed with Bush more; it should definitely be taught in public schools. It can be taught just like capitalism, socialism, communism and any other –ism; it doesn’t mean that students have to become biased or practice what they learn in class. If a majority of society doesn’t want I.D. then pass a bill, create a petition, run for office or something to get I.D. teachings pulled from schools. I think that maybe parents should worry more about what grades their kids are getting and what they do outside of school. Maybe the question that should be asked is “Should evolution be taught in public schools?”

Unknown said...

I am initially inclined to "side" with those who wish for Intelligent Design to be taught in public school. I disagree with evolution. However, I think the real question here is this: who should teach our society's children?

The answer is simple. The primary responsibility for the education of a child lies with their family. Religious values, traditions, and secular knowledge must be a taught by the parent.

Controversy surrounding mainstream education's curriculum is not as pressing an issue as the disintegration of the family. The accountability for children was accepted by their parents at conception. Dismissal of such obligations does in fact weaken a nation from it's very foundation.

Therefore, neither evolution nor intelligent design should be taught in public school.

Emma said...

Let's just start off with this: I do not believe specifically in a god but I thoroughly respect people who do and don't. No one knows exactly what happened and no one has proof so why should any of it be taught in our schools. That should be left up to his/her own beliefs and what they got out of life themselves. I do not think Intelligent Design should be part of our schools, I don't think evolution should be part of our schools, nor do I think religion should be taught in schools and that it just it.

Emma said...

Let's just start off with this: I do not believe specifically in a god but I thoroughly respect people who do and don't. No one knows exactly what happened and no one has proof so why should any of it be taught in our schools. That should be left up to his/her own beliefs and what they got out of life themselves. I do not think Intelligent Design should be part of our schools, I don't think evolution should be part of our schools, nor do I think religion should be taught in schools and that it just it.

tlawrence said...

I'm going to be a against it for the simple fact that I think religion should be kept seperate from school. People are going to have different views and beliefs when it comes to evolution and how man came about, and forcing it into the school system will only cause controversy. It's not a bad idea to want to inform people about different possiblities, I just don't think the schools should be the place where this is done.

araya said...

I think it is really sad that there is so much controversy about teaching intelligent design in our schools. I think it is really sad that there is so much controversy about taking the words "one nation under God," out of the Pledge of Aligence. I think it is really sad there is so much controversy in taking anything mentioning God out of our daily public vocabulary and lives. Was it not our Founding Fathers who put these words in the Constituiton and on our currency? However; with thechnology and science being so advanced, we are learning more and more about evolution. It is much harder to find concrete evidence that God did put us on Earth. I am a believer in God, but science is science. I think both theories should be taught in school. I think it is up to the parents to instill the values they want their children to live by. I think both sides need to be taught equally.

Anonymous said...

Let me first say that I am a firm believer in the separation of church and state. That is what the big controversy is all about. Intelligent design vs. Evolution is really Christians trying to force their viewpoints onto other people. You might be offended in some way when I say Christians are trying to force their viewpoints onto other people but its the truth. Intelligent design is a way to advance the teachings of Christianity in regard to the beginning of Earth and the creation of human beings. A lot of people don't believe what the bible says and don't need to hear about it in a science class. Intelligent design is just a way of hiding the fact that it is a religious doctrine. Anything that involves religion and public life, is against the First Amendment. Intelligent design gets by this by not saying the word God, but an "intelligent designer".

People who are in favor of intelligent design try and not say God is the "intelligent designer" but we all know they are talking about a Christian God. They just can't say God because that is what they said before and the Supreme Court said that it was a violation of the Establishment Clause First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, otherwise known as separation of Church and State. Just look up Edwards v. Aguillard.

For those who don't want to hear anything about religion, I have another reason intelligent design should not be taught in school. Well at least not taught in a science class. Intelligent design is NOT SCIENCE! It is a belief that is supported in a book. There is no scientific evidence that supports intelligent design. If you ask any well known scientist if they think there is any evidence to support intelligent design, no one would say yes. A big argument for intelligent design is that evolution is incorrect. That may or may not be true. I personally believe it to be true. But the possibility of evolution to be wrong is what makes science science. Science is about exploring the physical world, studying it, coming up with explanations to what as be observed, testing those explanations, and doing that over and over again. Evolution in it current form might be wrong, some part of it probably is, but with more experiments and observations the truth is be found. Some day scientists might come to the conclusion that intelligent design is correct after all, but it will take the scientific process to figure it all out. Right now evolution is the only plausible explanation. There is no scientific proof that supports intelligent design. Thats the real reason it shouldn't be taught in science classes. Maybe in a class on religions, but not a science class.

Matt Leedy said...

The way I feel about intelligent design vs evolution is you should be able to look at both intelligent design and evolution and note some key facts. I also feel that both intelligent design and evolution should be taught in school. I believe that it is important to see the difference between the two and and believe what you want to believe instead of what society says you should.

bb521 said...

I believe that intellegent design should be taught in schools along with the theory of evolution. Having kids be exposed to a theory that condradicts the evolution theory will make students think about it and decide for themselves what they believe. If you are just teaching one theory then students are just deciding if they bleieve that paticular theory or not. The more theories that they are exposed to the better understanding they will have on all the different ways that humans ended up the way we are today, therefore having a more educated belief of their own.